Welcome to Ecretsu.Submitted by Agarwaen765 on Sat, 06/06/2009 - 05:07 |
REVISIONS AT BOTTOM AND DATED.
Well, to begin:
As soon as the word is out, or as soon as the first of the infected arrives in proximity to myself, I will gather supplies and those around me wishing to survive. I have 3 Glock 19's for protection until we arrive at the Gun shop across from my home in Tennessee. My friends (including best bud Charlie) and I will load on weapons (and the katanas I mentioned in my bio, which are available at this store) hopefully before the infected (or other peoples more greedy than ourselves) arrive. We will then hold our selves up at Duck Island at Warriors Path State park until we have adequate supplies to make the venture to Fontana Dam, North Carolina. We will travel in no less than two vehicles (most likely trucks) carrying food. Eating the perishable foods first, rationing the rest. No man shall do ANYTHING alone, all in groups of 3 or more. The trip shall be dangerous and will accept all precautions and no risks.
The Dam has four main exits: either side of the structure itself, a lake on one side and the Little Tennessee River on the other. There are multitudes of sniper positions (it being the largest Dam in the East).
There is a two lane road across the top of the dam, easily barricaded on both ends if need be.
An elevated welcome center.
No wooden structures, all steel and concrete.
The Dam is a hydro electric dam, meaning as long as we take care of it, we will have a plentiful source of electricity after we downgrade the initial power output.
*Of course, since the downgrading is an extraneous process, electricity is not a priority. It will purely be a long term project. And since a people can survive without the use of electricity, it will come across as an option.*
Plenty of growing potential for future crops. All though, most crops will be grown down and upstream in the already existing farm land.
Hopefully one day the Zombie Virus will begin to subside as we have a small stable society.
*Of Course, all newcomers are welcome, but will be subject to full search by armoured personnel. NO EXCEPTIONS. If the virus is found to be active on the patient (assuming the virus isn't immediate as in 28 Days Later) that person will have a two choices; either we kill them then and there, or, for the mercy of their mind, we contain them and the moment they turn, they are disposed of. Nothing fancy, just quick and efficient.
Any vehicles will be parked around the "Visitor Center" for quick access to the highway leading from the Dam.
A supply route/survivour transportation is available for a short time using the railway system above the dam. Until we are stable enough to keep the tracks clear and the train running, we will likely use it sparingly, dropping off the supplies/survivours at US 19 and the ferrying them to the top of the Dam.
A cache of weapons and food will be held within the Dam itself and throughout most of the crevices available.
A constant guard will be provided for those who cannot yet fend for themselves.
Frequent recon missions will be sent forth to retrieve vital supplies such as:
(Not in Priority)
Firearms
Ammo
Food
*Building Supplies
Drink
Survivors
Water containers
Gas containers
Fuel
Other vital weapons
Working vehicles
Or parts needed of vehicles
Hopefully secure a few boats for our operation.
Any other useful items
*And of course to keep spirits up, we will also try to attain entertainment items to be used during one's down time. Books, movies, boardgames...
For the area below the Dam, a small dock can easily be built, so to avoid the roads and travel to the further cities and towns via the Little Tennessee River, and back.
Same for the area above the dam.
A system of zip lines from the top of the dam to the area below will be erected for easy escape, if the need arises.
Further down the river, in the areas more accustomed to growing food, we will set up an outpost for exactly that reason, providing a hopefully substantial constant flow of nourishment.
Of course to keep up spirits entertainment in the form of books, movies, games and will be provided in the welcome center and anywhere else available.
Training will be provided in areas of First Aid, weaponry,survival, and other areas.
Sleeping areas will be in the basement section of the welcome center, enough room to sleep 40 or so comfortably. Other rooms through out the complex can be outfitted if necessary.
The average outfit for the "troop" will be anything that protects from a bite, and still allows for quick mobility. along with multiple weapons and sufficient ammunition.
The system of ruling powers shall be by voting yet with those experienced enough in matters of crisis and combat to cast the "deciding vote", as long as most agree. The "deciding vote" will not always win. Everyone will need an opinion to survive, but those that can work well under stress should be the true deciders. AND THERE WILL BE NO ONE LEADER ONLY MANY. One leader could result in mistakes.
All who are able, will work or be trained for recon missions.
Bodies will be consumed by fire in a far of site.
A 24 radio watch will be set up in the fire tower near by. HAM included.
*Trees surrounding the Dam and other buildings of importance will be removed for better vision against any invaders, infected or not. Most likely used as fire wood.
*Of course water will be purified through the use of filters and tablets to keep all in the compound as healthy as possible.
*Also, all will be treated equally, even ranking officers to attempt to avoid conflicts of "who is better." Including myself, the one who established the colony, will sleep in the same quarters as the most common man, the only ones who receive special treatment shall be the sick and the wounded.
*Once a stable colony is establish, then we can focus upon building a few buildings for extra living quarters and/or storage.
*To solve the immediate problem of security at the dam (i.e. locked doors, stuff like that), the initial safe haven will be the visitors center. In the hours and days following, the doors will be opened and fortified to withstand Zombie strength.
*Building supplies are able to be brought by barge to the dam from the Lowe's and Home depot a ways up the river. Any large machines or supplies will also be brought this way, there is a barge dock about ten miles up river. A truck from U.S. 19 to the dock where the supplies will be loaded onto the boat and then floated to the dam via the lake.
A few small towns are nearby where we will load on Gas and other supplies. A few radio transmitters and receivers will be erected in order to attract those survivors. After time we will be able to venture to a more suitable growing and long term area.
*If the base is compromised, be it Human or Zombie, Escape will be by whatever means possible. If Zombie, a path will be cleared to the boats for all to escape. If the hoard is too strong for our military men and women to handle, then we shall all decide the next course of action because in an ever changing enviournment, all that matters is being thrifty and makeshift in dangerous situations. Hopefully minimal to no lives will be lost in the escape in the event of an overwhelming attack.
The idea of this Zombie Base is to provide a secure area for future growth and survival of the human race. All casualties will be avenged if we possess the tactical advantage, no one will be placed in danger. A now one will be sacrificed unless it is by will of the victim or that all will perish if it is not done.
*note* All that is written is based upon a rational sense. No one acts the same; there will be followers, but there will also be individuals who wish to act as leaders. My.... no, our survival plan will attempt to cater to all, the goal is survival, not power.
August 17, 2009: As Bradarv90 so stated in the forum, Proper restroom facilities are provided and during recon missions, hygienic items will be provided when found.
August 18, 2009: Overflow will be placed in nearby Fontana Village.
August 30, 2009: As more stated on the Drinking water situation, the vast majority of drinking water will be taken from mountain springs a short walk away. Pipes can be constucted easily in order to bring the supply to the dam complex.
September 2, 2009: Can you believe I forgot to add Medical Supplies to the Recon list?? Stupid me. Medical Supplies will also be sought after!
September 24, 2009: As request by Justin, an airfield was in discussion and now one has been located. Following the river South will lead you to a rather large airport. These will be used in order for long range recon and supply pick-up.
January 4, 2010: If anyone wants a plan on how to get here, PM me your starting location and I will do the research for you and send you a plan on how to get to Ecretsu the safest way.
January 18, 2010: Due to Hygene concerns: Restroom: If the plumbing degrades, port-o-johns are available... unless someone takes them away before now and when I get there. Those are easy to clean. Empty the contents on the South side of the damn.
Water: this I think was addressed, but I'm not sure. Water will be purified in various ways. Pills, pumps, old charcoal technique.
Also there is a spring not far a way where water can be brought in via pipes.
FOR A BETTER VIEW OF THE DAM GO TO THE SURVIVOR MAP AND FIND MY POSITION. ZOOM IN AND CLICK "SATELLITE" AND ZOOM IN FARTHER. CHECK THE SURROUNDING AREA IF YOU WISH.
Only One Problem
This plan is probably one of the best I've read on the site so far, and its given me plenty of ideas for my own. However, there is something I think you overlooked: hygiene. As time goes on, the plumbing will, inevitably, stop working. Without proper ways to dispose of 'waste' and shower, disease will spread, and cause havoc in your plan. The reason some countries are unhealthier than others is due to the transmission of viruses that come from waterborne sources. Thats the only problem I see with your plan, but I consider it to be a top priority for keeping Ecretsu healthy and safe. Just my two cents, maybe you already have a plan for that or something :P
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I'll put that in the
I'll put that in the plan!
Thanks, I did overlook it.
Restroom: If the plumbing degrades, port-o-johns are available... unless someone takes them away before now and when I get there. Those are easy to clean. Empty the contents on the South side of the damn.
Water: this I think was addressed, but I'm not sure. Water will be purified in various ways. Pills, pumps, old charcoal technique.
Also there is a spring not far a way where water can be brought in via pipes.
thanks for your concern!
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Books are great (heck, I of all people should think so!) but if that's not an available resource, experience is honestly the best teacher. You can read about something all you want, but that's way different than actually doing it. If books are available, they will be a good guide, but if not don't sweat it. People actually are very resourceful when it's needed. ^.^
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Hey Josh
Nice plan, I like it, very detailed, here is some constructive criticism for ya tho:
1.) The initial part of the plan is good to go, get guns, hold up at the state park until you are ready to move, the only thing I see as a possible threat to the entire plan is this: Will the highways already be jammed packed, bumper to bumper, basically unpassable? The reason I say this is because you say that you will hold down at the state park until you are ready, what it getting ready takes longer than expected?
2.) What would you use to initially blockade the roads up top? (I will continue this with another thing in order to stay in order of appearance on the plan)
3.) What if when you reach the dam, you run into people who laid claim to it 1st and have a plan that is (for argument sake) is a 360 turn from your own and are dead set on it?
4.) The part about electricity, I agree 100% with you, its not an initial priority, but calculate the part about all the others you have with you: They may disagree with you, these people having been pampered by the electricity for their entire life. Just a thought, not to mention that I'm pretty sure running a Dam isn't as easy as it appears lol
5.) I'm probably gunna bash this every time I see it until I see proper arrangements, but for the farming part and all the things about growing vegetables: It isn't as easy as it seems and in order to supply the number of people you are talking about, would take some people with not only agricultural knowledge, but most likely an agricultural job to maintain. Taking care of vegetables/crops is an every day thing, a lot of the time sun up to sun down, you miss enough days of maintenance, the crops die. What if you get a horde for a prolonged attack, taking people away from their work to the defense of the fortifications, the crops would die and then you'd have people getting mad because they want food. This is hard to explain, but you also said that the farming would be done else where like up/down stream. This would also mean people would have to leave the safety of the fortifications EVERY day to maintain the crops. You mentioned guards and stuff like that, hey, they are fearful people too, tho its a priority thing to get food, good luck getting people willing to out and basically spend the majority of their day out in the open with the scary threat of man-eating zombies once they find the safety.
6.) You said you'd welcome everyone. I think this is a bad idea for a few reasons (and some I wont list): You don't know who you are letting in. What it you let in a group of people just hell bent on having things done their way? If you suggest making them leave, what if they kill a few people before they are either killed or chased away? Its all unneeded loss of life for unneeded risk taking. But I guess I stand alone on that take here, I can go really in depth on what I mean, I will start a threat about it in fact lol
7.) In conjunction with 2 (this part is kinda hard to explain)- you said all vehicles would be parked at the visitors center for quick access to the highway leading from the dam. Does this mean that the highway cuts across the dam? If not, still consider some of the following: (for 2)- if you were initially going to barricade the top, what if there were people still trying to get across? Would they just stop and let you seal their path? And if you managed to, do you think they would just sit back and let something stop them? But back to 7- if there is a highway near by, you can expect a shit ton of zombies to be a threat for a prolonged amount of time as well as the heavier of threats: desperate people (as covered in 6 as a bad idea to let in). I lost my train of thought, but I think you will get my point.
8.) This is a big one, possibly THE most important and something I stress all the time: Human nature is a variable. I wanted to save this until the end, but I have to address it just because of its consistency of being ignored in your plan (No offense of course). I see you talking about supply routes, caches, guard duty, governed society and basically people giving two shits about others, its all good and stuff, but with the massive amounts of people I am imagining you would be working with, I don't see it as probable, even/especially under the banner of survival. I will start at caches: tho it is a good idea to have supplies in mass, what if you have some gluttons who doesn't understand the meaning of conserving your means? What are you going to do, stop a person/group of people who want something really bad? Not every one in the world is a bitch to stop at "No you cant do that." (This is kinda a bad example, but cache's are vulnerable to idiots who don't understand their purpose is my point). Guard duty. O'sweet guard duty. Let me tell something: even within the ranks of the voluntary military, people who serve you now, guard duty..it fucking sucks. Even when I was little ol'boot PFC Ludwig, I will admit, I fell asleep a few times, deployed or here even, you know why? Even with it being a priority and reasonable thing to have and us with our sense of duty and responsibility and all that motivational stuff, 24/7 duty of any type sucks ass to do, even with reasonable rotations. The amount of NOTHING you do while on post is nerve rending, you can get complacent so fast, its not even funny. Even today, Sgt Ludwig fucking hates anything to do with guard duty, we have something called SOG (Sgt of the Guard), it sucks and all it is is sitting in an office with the OTD (officer of the day) and occasionally going to the barracks to make sure the DNCO (duty nco) is doing his job maintaining the barracks. You give this guard duty to some dude who has no sense of responsibility or duty at all, I guarantee you will have issues. It is reassured, take it from an experienced voice lol. Governed society, your talking about vote and a possible kick in the balls of a "deciding vote." A little insight about people and governments with an American example: Back in the elections of Bush vs. Gore, the majority voted for Gore, but the Electoral College gave it to Bush. People were pissed off for so long, people laying claims that he rigged the elections and all of that shit. THE PEOPLE were pissed. The part of the story that makes America so much different from the great other number of the world was this: they accepted the outcome. In other countries, if the people didn't get what they wanted, there would have been tanks in the streets, people killing in the name of "its not what we wanted." In a small-medium size society that you speak of, if it was a close election, the people who didn't get what they wanted would be divided from the ones that did and to top that, a "deciding vote" would be just that kick in the balls to piss off a lot of people. If 54% of the people of your community say Jack Frost is the new head honcho and have passion in their confidence in him but the "experienced voice" says Hana Montana gets it instead, people wont stand for it, its a good way to incite riot/anarchy within your community. IN MY OPINION, the best way to handle people is threw fear. If they want to get smart with you, you fuck them up ugly and make an example of them, kill a mother fucker if it is needed at the time. THIS is the cost of survival- fuck being nice about it. And if you want to counter with that would be more of a reason to startle up people into riot, no, you set the ground rules and draw the line- it is law, people generally respect law. I state this because it could be used as this "this person dares oppose me, the person who sheltered you from the threat you didn't know how to deal with. He breaks the LAWS that I put into place to better our society", nothing like a good old flip the coin in your favor, make the people who go against you (look like) the bad guys. People being care bears- I wouldn't put money into it. Ive seen it enough in life, people racing to the light at the end of the tunnel that can only fit ONE person at a time threw it- so many people wanting to be 1ST threw, but only ONE will come out on top, doing whatever it takes for THEM to make it. Expect a world of zombies to be worse than that. Supply runs are probably the only thing that shouldn't take to much effort to organize due to it being blatantly obvious as a priority, but you said "all who are able," what about calculating into that all who are WILLING, don't assume everyone able will want to risk their tails. Also calculate probable usefulness, you don't want to send a useless idiot out risking everyone he is with.
9.) Who would teach your said courses?
10.) Who would build your structures you speak of?
11.) Equality is good, but don't underestimate people catching on how to slack out of things. You said only the sick and wounded would be pampered. Dude, let me tell ya lol, there are people out there who would fuck themselves up just to get taken care of like that, just know your limits on how much differently they are treated is all I'm suggesting or at least make the meaning of "equality" a decent standard of living so people don't resort to being the town gimp lol
12.) Don't underestimate zombie strength even after a good amount of time, it can't be assumed that time will kill them.
13.) In case of being overwhelmed, have a preset plan that the community knows of and even could drill on so that when/if it happens, you could take minimal amounts of energy in saving others and more into your own survival, knowing that at least they know the plan. I am sorry to say tho that your escape plan is a "perfect world" scenario, put money on your numbers being dwindled after an assault as the one you spoke of.
14.) In response to your idea of the base and the note below that: A lot of people will give two shits about "humanity" past the point of zombies. Their ass and their loved ones asses are all they care about. If you wish to cater to each type of person and be nice, you will be taken advantage of. If someone tenacious and ambitious enough saw opportunity to change things to his way- he would grab it by the balls and make you (or the elected leaders in your plan) eat the ground you made safe, unless you are willing to stand up and teach them bitches a lesson in life about fucking with you. Survival with other people is with an iron fist or its game over for your ideas, be them the greatest and most probable, it wouldn't matter if you didn't have a voice. Let me emphasize: People around the world protest their governments, saying what they are doing isn't right this, they don't care that, we don't want this, I don't wanna pay for that. What people are o'so unwilling to admit is this: They don't know whats best for them the majority of the times, that's the reason they have a government in the 1st place- to make local/national decisions for them. Who are THEY to say its wrong, for all they know, the thing they are protesting is the only thing keeping them alive. To rule with power isn't always right (if you aren't the right person), I will give you that, but to rule with power and be the guy with the plan and knows the name of the game, hey, its the best act of civil service one could do.
Hopefully this gives you a good idea of my perspective further more. I will give you my ingredient for my insight in zombie plans: When you watch a zombie movie or read a zombie book *preferably type like Max Brooks (realistic stances)*, ignore the zombies almost completely and focus on the human reactions to things and what they do, watch human nature. And then, turn on the national news and tell me the difference.
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I should probably clear up a
I should probably clear up a bit on my plan, but here is what I think:
If it takes longer than expected? Wel that is just fine and dandy. We really had no set out date. Duck Island is probably where we will be for the majority of the initial Zombie outbreak.
Run into people already there? Try to make peace, if no peace is welcomed... well shit. But it was worth a shot to try.
Oh, it is not as easy. Well, it is not as easy if you have to repair it. Most Hydroelectric dams are meant to run on their own without human intervention for decades at a time. Fontana happens to be the Biggest Dam in the East, it is one of those dams. When I was there, the "neat facts" section mentioned that they only check the equipment every 6 years. Now, there are people there all the time, but not maintaining it. It runs on it;s own.
Yes, Welcoming everyone. That is just my stance. Yes, People are bitches and highly unpredictable, but that is human nature and always will be, there is no way to stop it nor to stem the tide. Might as well live with it. You might make more enemies by turning people away that you potentially could by letting them in. If we Don't let them in, what is stopping them from still killing a bunch of people?
Teaching the courses? Well, once again, that is one of the things that will EVENTUALLY come. Only the priorities for living will be taken care of immediately. But I guess people who are qualified. If for some reason, out of all the people living in Ecretsu don't know anything about it, or are unwilling, there has to be a book somewhere in the area. Books are our friends!
As for the last part: It's all relative. Yes, people tend to only care about themselves. But people also respect kindness with strength. I don't know what it is like in Texas, but typically kindness works better than iron fist here. Proven many times... except in the McCoy-Hatfield feud!
But oh yes. I understand you completely people are scum and do take advantage of. As it has been seen through out History. IT'S ALL RELATIVE AS TO WHAT WILL ACTUALLY HAPPEN.
What you say might come to pass, as it has in the past.
And what I believe in might come to pass, as it has in the past.
It's all relative to who, what, where, and how all is ruled.
Anyway, Thanks much for the criticism! Much needed in the world of planning.
Who would build the structures? Well, def me and Charlie, even though people are total assholes, there are some who would help. And I'm sure in a situation as such, they would. not everyone is pissed off at the world.
Agriculture: Just stating this. It is a priority, but I do recognize that it will take a long time to steady it out. Luckily.... unless something absolutely terrible happens, We don't have to start from scratch. Down river, many sq miles of fields for produce already there. I was really condensing my plan, so I will expand it here soon. Yes it takes people to tend, but it has to be done.
Initially blocking the roadways? Cars, Vehicles, surrounding trees for lumbar. That's not the hard part. go the the forum topic "Meet me in Ecretsu" for pics.
I'll most likely slack as well, like I said. Human nature. can't stop it.
And I agree with you completely on the plan for the community to know. :)
yut yut
Of course :)
My intentions aren't to be condescending or anything like that, but to look at it from all the angles possible, particularly the worst case scenarios, they aren't for the most part what happens, but sometimes, not far from it. The best way to prepare for the unknown is to prepare for the worst is what I've learned.
Zombies or humans, makes no difference, variables variables variables.
None the less, I like your plan a lot, got a vote thingy :)
I dont think people like my way of thinking to much lol, I'm such a son of a bitch lol
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Oh, I like it. It's just not
Oh, I like it. It's just not for me.
Thank you nonetheless.
We need more people who spot flaws and state them.
That's a very Machiavelian stance
I'm not saying I don't agree, I just don't like it, nor do I have to. I don't like the fact that in the event that I am put in the leadership position, the question is not if, but when I am going to have to shoot someone for being dangerous to the group, or kick someone out for being too useless. It's unpleasant but it's the truth. If you choose to take on the mantle of leadership, especially in such trying circumstances, you are going to have to make unpleasant decisions and people will die because of it. There is no question of that. You just have to do your best, keep as many useful people alive as you can and keep your wits about you.
So, you're saying I've fallen upon a puppet?
hehe
Kinda funny you mention that, I read The Prince not so long ago
But to your statements: Its not an ideal thing to kill people for having a voice or being useless, its to react once you know the outcome will be in your favor
In the circumstance of people trying to voice out, hey, you cant go ballistic every time they disagree with you, its going to happen, but its when they threaten the things you know to be efficient for the whole, probable and realistic that you get ready to act because a lot of times, the people who stand up usually don't have a plan on what to do once they get their way, they are short-sited and have unrealistic goals in mind, but you let them push until they crossed the said line and then boom- as the great Stephen Segal once said, "Fuck them up ugly."
In the case of a useless guy- I'm talking about THAT guy who is assigned to do something, but is to lazy to do it. He is trained in something and capable of doing it, but doesn't apply himself. He is overall a leech, draining the society and not giving ANYTHING back other than another mouth to feed. In his case, it is probably already known that he is useless to everyone, he's more than likely already cost someone their life or has at the least endangered some by being how he is. There is nothing he could that wouldn't have some level of risk to it, zombies, natural or human that he could handle. So basically, you let the people call an apple an apple and go from there, I know in a subsistent society, no one will want to support someone who can't contribute to the whole. The part that benefits you (the leader) is that once you either kill him, beat him or banish him, others that were like him are all of a sudden more productive, society as a whole is being more productive, win/win scenario. In the case that the people don't see it but you do, YOU call an apple an apple and do what you must, both stimulate the societies productivity
But yes, overall, if you are a leader in a world like one of a Zombie Apocalypse where people look up to you for answers during trying times, people will die due to your leadership calls, "you cant save them all" best describes that
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Yeah, I kinda guessed you had
I saw the line you took from the prince about being feared.
I didn't say anything about killing people for having a voice, at least not intentionally. My overall point is that if you decide to be the leader under those circumstances, people will die because of your decisions and actions. Sometimes you'll have to pull the trigger yourself. I was stating it as an unpleasant reality that one must accept if one wishes to lead. I guess it was a case of a bad example on my part.
My thinking at least in terms of being feared, is that if you wish to lead effectively you must not instill a fear of your person, but a fear of your willingness to act. There must be certainty, especially in the upholding of "the law" that certain acts will have certain consequences.
So, you're saying I've fallen upon a puppet?
my bad lol
hey homie, naw I wasnt disagreeing with you, I was just adding detail to what I was saying is all
your dead on the spot :)
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Very Nice
When the zombie come, I will boat up there
IMA ZOMBIE
Why thank ya, we need all the
Why thank ya, we need all the help we can get in order to establish a functioning state!
I don't think that's a valid call sign
I could be wrong but I am pretty sure that even if you cough up the extra $20 for the custom call sign you sill have to follow a certain format for your call sign depending on your cert level.
So, you're saying I've fallen upon a puppet?
I know. it's upsetting isn't
I know. it's upsetting isn't it! I've actually been too lazy to go and check.
yeah
The main issue is that each country in the international coms commiSsion has a certain letter that HAM call signs can begin with. I think the US has A,N and about three others.
So, you're saying I've fallen upon a puppet?
....
omg return of the HAM
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Okay so at the end of the year you should win the "Best of the Year" or perhaps "Best of All Time" award.
By that time, I'll be competing with you neck and neck! mwhahaha
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lol I look forward to run
lol I look forward to run against you Captain Cake!
Sweet
This plan is awesome, probably the best on the site so far. Hits all the important points. I'll map out the distance from ontario to the dam so I can join you guys. Would you want me to bring a crew?
Why thank you! Hmm, a crew
Why thank you!
Hmm, a crew would be nice. We have plenty of places to shelter people once the Dam Complex is "full." There are several small easily defended towns near the dam (within boating distance) so if you bring a large enough crew, that should work!
Just.... wow...... xD
This makes me want to move out of state and hole up in your bunker with you guys.
Well thought out, and as good as it looked from an initial read-through, people have managed to improve upon this plan. That's good. I may even borrow some advice from your points and feedback. A logical approach to avoiding infection is emerging from all walks of life, and you've done your homework for yours: makes me proud to be human. :)
One thing you may want to add is; I'd suggest including mountain bicycles to more easily and efficiently blaze existing trails and the tiring terrain surrounding your home base, wherever it can be allowed. It makes for a quick and easy escape back to the dam if an emergency arises while a group is doing recon. The information, as well as the scouts, can be relayed back A.S.A.P.
The pro's:
-improves movement out and around the countryside
-can retrieve supplies faster when relaying from boats to dam, if such a venture is sought after in the future as you stated
-requires no gas; anything un-impeded by finite resources is a very desirable trait
The con's:
-could break down during a trek, and not be able to be repaired in the midst of zombie territory
-can be stolen by non-infected raiders traversing the same ground as you
So leaning towards one wager or the other all depends on you. Good luck when the zombie hordes invade.
And don't forget a very important rule: Blades don't need re-loading. ;)
"This is war; survival is YOUR responsibility..."
~HUNK; Umbrella Security Services, Alpha Team
Thanks for the feedback! I
Thanks for the feedback!
I will def look into bringing some good mountain bikes for use.
hehehe
awesome freaking plan!! ^^
What falls, but never breaks? What breaks, but never falls? Night and Day
Air support!
I just had a new idea for your plan! Go to a local farm or some crap, and jack a crop duster! when you have to watch something as big as a dam, you had better have an airplane.
WOOO, make sure your pilot isn't drunk though. Beer + planes + zombies = hilarity, but also death.
Damn an blast, that was the best idea I had all week...- blades_dont_need_reloading
It's ok. It's only the internet.
Ok I'm back. Well I have a
Ok I'm back. Well I have a few plans would anyone like to hear them?
Anyway I am behind my brother park till the end and after. Because when its on I will fight under his flag and never surrender. He knows what he is doing and if anyone is incorruptible its this guy. I am loyal to my friends and he is at the top of the list. Park dont change and meet me when it happens.
Also....Lets start recruiting lol
Gungriffin
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HELL YEAH Dude! That's what I'm talking about! Recruitment!
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~Ghostie member #3
Dam dam dam!
I like it. Excellent plan, and I hope nothing happens to the dam before you get to it. *mischivous grin*
Also, get some 4 wheelers, that would be pretty neat. You know, patrolling the top of the dam with them, and maybe perhaps doing some zombie-squashin...
Damn an blast, that was the best idea I had all week...- blades_dont_need_reloading
It's ok. It's only the internet.
Instead of Grinning
Instead of Grinning Mischievously Join us.
Gungriffin
No can do.
Sticking with my plan.
Damn an blast, that was the best idea I had all week...- blades_dont_need_reloading
It's ok. It's only the internet.
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LOL@Jus
NO!!!! We need the Dam. Don't you dare touch it!!
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~Ghostie member #3
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If I start to turn, use me as bait then kill me.
Sent via PS3 or phoneputer, bc Cake broke her macbook.
~Ghostie member #3
If your with us we wont let
If your with us we wont let you come close to turning. You will be protected. We watch after our own. If you can try to help yourself we will meet you half way girlie
Gungriffin
Kick ass!
This is way easier to read and keep track of.
So, you're saying I've fallen upon a puppet?
Great system, you should take
Great system, you should take it up to northern Canada, where there aren't as many Zombies and keep crops in underground greenhouses using nuclear power, and survivng for years using the largest Uranium deposit in the world for fuel...Oh man I feel another plan coming on!
Don't forget to kill Phillip! -Ed
Maybe we should start another
Maybe we should start another plan, utilizing the deposits up north. We just need a member who knows his way through a Nuclear facility. Start a transportation system between our operations.
I know a few people
I know a few people that have worked in nuclear plants, and I know the basic theory of how to operate a reactor.
So, you're saying I've fallen upon a puppet?
hey boyscout
You are so smart. I love how thorough you are...
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~Ghostie member #3
Why thank ya dear.
Why thank ya dear.
I don't mean to be a pest
But when you edit your plan do you think you could possibly date the changes?
You've got a great plan and I want to be able to keep tabs on it.
So, you're saying I've fallen upon a puppet?
Sure, I'll start keeping a
Sure, I'll start keeping a revisions tab. Replacing old ones with new ones. And worries, you're not a pest...yet.... *evil glare*
thanks
and glare duly noted
So, you're saying I've fallen upon a puppet?
Ever thought of using the train
on U.S 19 as a supply route? I'm not sure if their are any connecting rails that pass a little closer (might be worth looking into), but I do know that it is accessible by water. Because honestly, would like to see anything that the zombies can throw at you so much as slow a train down, let alone stop one and it would give you pretty much free reign all across the country provided you took it slow and had a way to clear the track when there is an obstruction.
Also, as a side note, if my plan doesn't work out, I may have to borrow yours as a contingency. Washington's mostly hydro so it wouldn't be that difficult to find a dam to occupy.
So, you're saying I've fallen upon a puppet?
I did think about using the
I did think about using the railway. Even though it doesn't come relativley close to the dam, we could still have a smaller supply route to pick up the suppleis and ferry it to the damn.
You're welcome at any time to utilize the idea or join us. Meet us by train! lol
Yeah
Cause that's about the only way I'd make it all the way to Tennessee without a serious case of death, or un-death as the case may be.
So, you're saying I've fallen upon a puppet?
remember
remember to come and get me lol :D no seriously lol we'll have guns and some food, and alot of ammo. but i just have ONE question. what will you do to fortify the doors in the visitor center. but other than that please bring me from ny =DDD
Bros' before Hoes' ||||~Ghostie Member #7~||||
Well, the frame to the doors
Well, the frame to the doors are metal, I'm assuming stregnther aluminum or a light steel (enough to stop a person and bullets). So, simply steel rebar will be welded onto the frame in a cross pattern, the frame itself might have to be strengthed, but I;ve done this before an it is not that difficult. The same will be done to the windows.
Since there are stronger areas, we will occupy them first and then take the time to weld.
More powerful locking mechinisms will be set in place (likely in the form af a large bar across the door :)....)
But don't worry, we'll get you. lol
better
alot better than my plan..... HOLY CRAP ZOMBIE OVER THERE
*steal your plan* it's mine now!
When A giant ass monster wants to kill you, KILL IT THE FUCK BACK!
Usmcludwigs Best friend.
nice plan
good plan i will be joining you in this plan if u ant mad at meh
the sword wields no strenth unless the hand that holds it has courage